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Willie Nelson On World Cafe

Willie Nelson sings about outliving friends, surviving death hoaxes and more on his latest album, <em>Last Man Standing</em>.
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Willie Nelson sings about outliving friends, surviving death hoaxes and more on his latest album, Last Man Standing.

If you think of Willie Nelson as a lot of people do, you might make the same mistake I did on the way up the stairs of his tour bus, Honeysuckle Rose. I imagined we were going to visit a mythical creature or an immortal shaman; in reality, it was better than that. We were greeted by a warm 85-year-old who had just woken from a pre-show nap and was drinking a cup of coffee at his version of a kitchen table — a narrow booth in the front of the bus, with photos of friends and family, including his great-grandchildren, hanging on the wall behind him.

Thinking about the volume and importance of the music this man has made is overwhelming to anyone other than Willie himself. In the past decade alone, he has released more than a dozen records, including an album of Gershwincovers; a collaboration with his sons, Lukas and Micah Nelson; and a few albums with new originals, including his latest, Last Man Standing, co-written with Buddy Cannon.

The album title means what you think it means. Willie sings about the realities of being his age and watching some of his friends die. On the album's title track, he shouts out friends who lived what he calls the fast life, mentioning Norro Wilson, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings and Ray Price. "It took its toll on some of us, and some of us made it through and some of us didn't," Willie says. "I still wonder, 'Why me? Why am I still here?' ... But for some reason, I'm still here. I'm thankful for that."

Willie has survived a lot, including pneumonia, a collapsed lung, even death hoaxes. The song "Something You Get Through" speaks to the resilience that comes with age. "I was a big friend of a Baptist minister out there in Austin, Texas. He wrote a book and I did an audio version of his book," Willie says. "And one of the things I felt stayed with me was ... we were playing golf one day and he was talking about divorce and death, and he said, 'There's some things that you won't get over, but you will get through it.' So I ripped him off, and I wrote a song."

Listening to him contemplate the other side, you get the sense Willie approaches the topic like he does most things: with simplicity, love and humor. Hear more of our conversation at the audio link.

Web editor Sidney Madden and web intern Emily Abshire contributed to this story.

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Talia Schlanger hosts World Cafe, which is distributed by NPR and produced by WXPN, the public radio service of the University of Pennsylvania. She got her start in broadcasting at the CBC, Canada's national public broadcaster. She hosted CBC Radio 2 Weekend Mornings on radio and was the on-camera host for two seasons of the television series CBC Music: Backstage, as well as several prime-time music TV specials for CBC, including the Quietest Concert Ever: On Fundy's Ocean Floor. Schlanger also guest hosted various flagship shows on CBC Radio One, including As It Happens, Day 6 and Because News. Schlanger also won a Canadian Screen Award as a producer for CBC Music Presents: The Beetle Roadtrip Sessions, a cross-country rock 'n' roll road trip.
World Cafe senior producer Kimberly Junod has been a part of the World Cafe team since 2001, when she started as the show's first line producer. In 2011 Kimberly launched (and continues to helm) World Cafe's Sense of Place series that includes social media, broadcast and video elements to take listeners across the U.S. and abroad with an intimate look at local music scenes. She was thrilled to be part of the team that received the 2006 ASCAP Deems Taylor Radio Broadcast Award for excellence in music programming. In the time she has spent at World Cafe, Kimberly has produced and edited thousands of interviews and recorded several hundred bands for the program, as well as supervised the show's production staff. She has also taught sound to young women (at Girl's Rock Philly) and adults (as an "Ask an Engineer" at WYNC's Werk It! Women's Podcast Festival).